apologies if this has been posted already.... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/uniting-church-in-australia-apologises-to-victims/8344496.
And OC.
Compensation is a form of redress for liability or culpability. So by saying that compensation will be on a case by case basis, that would indicate that liability and culpability is not certain in each case either to the same degree or at all. If that was not the case then the chair would not state that the compensation would be handled on a case by case basis, he would have stated that the compensation would be the same across the board.
apologies if this has been posted already.... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/uniting-church-in-australia-apologises-to-victims/8344496.
Please tell me where either the chair or the commission said that all of the cases are institutional abuse.
apologies if this has been posted already.... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/uniting-church-in-australia-apologises-to-victims/8344496.
because we are required to look at the response of your organisation." Notice that the chair did not say that all of the cases are institutional abuse nor are all of the claims fall under that. The chair said that the organization came under their right to investigate.
apologies if this has been posted already.... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/uniting-church-in-australia-apologises-to-victims/8344496.
OC:
I don't see how a case by case basis does not mean that there are some that would not be organizational abuse cases. Clearly, there are some that aren't just by the simple fact that some of those cases the abuser was not a member, that is just one example. There are going to be other examples too.
apologies if this has been posted already.... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/uniting-church-in-australia-apologises-to-victims/8344496.
I can live with myself because I can understand and accept the complexity of the situation. And yes how people are labeled is important to the law. Even the commission in Australia recognize that. While speaking of a compensation scheme. You are correct the commission did decide that watchtower did fall under their definition of institutional abuse that they were investigating, but they also said not all cases are such. That the cases would be handled and determined on a case by case basis. Or did no one hear that because it wasn't a complete damning of watchtower.
apologies if this has been posted already.... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/uniting-church-in-australia-apologises-to-victims/8344496.
You do realize that the United Church had a different relationship with the abusers and the victims. These events took place in schools and out of home institutions. So the abusers were employees of the church and the victims were under the complete legal trust of the church.
with all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?
i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.
how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.
Yeah outlaw I am going to take that from someone who won't actually say stuff and just posts memes all the time.
with all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?
i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.
how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.
Wow outlaw. So is at least two California appeals court, a number of US Federal and State courts a jury that found an accused jw pedophile innocent and the govenor of California apologists. Is it anyone who disagrees with u is an apologist and wants to protect pedophiles.
thank you to john redwood for making this available so quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzqvj0z7_ya.
Under the Radar are you saying that you watched the proceedings with an open mind and with no bias?
Being bias is human nature. We all have biases based on our experience with a situation. It is accepting that we have biases that is the key part in life.
a petition has been launched in australia to coincide with the child abuse royal commission's adverse findings against watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.
the petition is to the australian charities and not-for-profit commission to cancel their charity status.. https://www.change.org/p/australian-charities-and-not-for-profit-commission-acnc-cancel-the-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-s-charity-status.
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It has to be 1000 Australian Citizens. The parliamentary procedure to petition parliament says that it is the right of citizens to petition Parliament. It can't just be 1000 people from around the world. Also then you have to find either a senator or a PM who will attest to the accuracy of the signatures and then file it with their chamber.
